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Front Suspension strut COLLAPSE |
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Paschal |
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Joined: Feb 09 2011
Member No: #375
Location: Meath |
Happy days again, looks like the front suspension really is the weakest link. I did'nt mind so much replacing both fron lower balljoints about a year ago nor even both front wishbones about a month ago but it really took the biscuit yesterday morning when the right front suspension strut got intimate with the bonnet. Anyone else had this problem? It happened when I was not going very fast thankfully and on a good smooth (no potholes) surface without absolutely no warning! Please comment |
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C6Dave |
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Member No: #1
Location: Northumberland |
Have you got a picture of the top of the suspension leg? It's hard to see how it could come up through the wing. If it has fired the pyrotechnics for the bonnet then it looks like the end for another C6 I'm afraid. |
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michaelb |
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Joined: Nov 17 2009
Member No: #14
Location: London |
fuuking hell. | ||
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Extant |
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Joined: Dec 13 2010
Member No: #317
Location: Monmouth |
michaelb wrote ... fuuking hell. Nasty! I'm begining to think I should take my car in to have the suspension given a thourough inspection. |
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Paschal |
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Joined: Feb 09 2011
Member No: #375
Location: Meath |
Actually thats what I thought when it happened looking out through the windscreen. I dont think that it has fired how would you tell. Heres the strut! Anyone know how it's retained? Parts diagram even? |
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C6Dave |
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Member No: #1
Location: Northumberland |
In the 'Doc Library' Here: - Click Here - Just had a quick look at mine and there is a gap of around 2-3mm between the strut and the part shown orange in your pic so assume it's held below the wing But not sure as after looking at the technical docs it comes as a unit complete so looks like a manufacturing failure |
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Paschal |
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Joined: Feb 09 2011
Member No: #375
Location: Meath |
I thought that the lowest of the 3 grooves on the top of the cylinder was part of a retaining system maybe like a circlip? There is no connection (screw or bolt) between the cylinder and the big mounting block that is part of the strut assembly above the valance so whatever holds them together is in the wheel arch. I seems to me that the strut assembly has come apart letting the cylinder wander off on its own. I've been to the docs section but will follow your link again. Thanks | ||
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gmerry |
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Joined: Dec 11 2009
Member No: #21
Location: Scotland |
Hi all, a failure like that should be reported to VOSA or Irish equivalent. Plus a recall should be issued once the cause of the failure has been determined and appropriate inspection of any at risk parts completed. Regards G |
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travlician |
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Joined: Jan 22 2011
Member No: #350
Location: Paradera |
I recently took a suspension cyclinder apart to see if I could fix it's leak but in the end I couldn't get the piston out of the cylinder. In that process I also removed the circlip that's holding the cylinder in position, the one that obiously caused the problem described in this topic. Unfortunaltely I didn't take any picture of that part. I did notice the circlip was somewhat oxidized and was worried when assembling the part back that this could be a weak point. I remember I left the hood open for that reason. To check this is a lot of work, need to remove the suspencion cyclinder, remove the circlip that is under a lot of pressure from the foam/rubber above it. Meanwhile I'm still waiting for the new one (got it for 223 euros from france, new!) an runing the car only when needed with the slightly leaking one in, but after this story.... |
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Leo |
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Joined: Apr 20 2010
Member No: #94
Location: Belfast |
Yes, potentially catastrophic failure and really does little for my confidence in the car. Must agree with Gmerry - this needs a thorough investigation by Citroen and the statutory authorities. Imagine that happening at speed with the car loaded up! Leo |
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neal2175ds |
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Joined: May 23 2011
Member No: #487
Location: Suffolk |
WOW ! Thank god you weren't involved in a crash. I have never seen anything like it ... scary as hell! I agree with the others this really does need checking out by the statutory authorities and Citroen. We all carry our families in these cars and I for one could not think of any harm coming to them because of poor engineering or a design issue. It needs checking. Regards Neal |
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travlician |
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Joined: Jan 22 2011
Member No: #350
Location: Paradera |
It seems Citroen was aware of problems with this part as its partnumber has been changed serveral times. It's 5271-J0 till org nr 11061, 5271-J7 from 11062-11648, 5271-K4 as of organr. 11648 and all have now been replaced by 5271-L8. It could be due to the leaking issues only but maybe they realised an issue with the circlip construction as well. Can we force Citroën to do a recall? | ||
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MattHwk |
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Joined: Sep 30 2010
Member No: #246
Location: Solihull |
Black Monday for all things C6 | ||
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David K |
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Joined: Jan 30 2010
Member No: #42
Location: Scania |
This has been a pretty common problems with XMs in Sweden. But here it has been because of rust when moisture has coming in between the rubber sealing and the steal where the suspension strut is coming up in the engine room. But I don't think it has happened before the cars has been around 15 years old or so. Bonnets for XMs are pretty desirable here actually. As you might know we have a very agressive climate for cars with a lot of salt on the roads during winter time, which is usually from November to March-April. But why it happens on Ireland is a mystery. And must be a production fault. I hope for our sake that it is a one off, and not something that will happen to all of us sooner or later. |
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gmerry |
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Joined: Dec 11 2009
Member No: #21
Location: Scotland |
Hi, Scottish conditions are not unlike those in Sweden with salted roads December to March pretty common. Actually because it is slightly warmer, corrosion conditions could well be worse (look at what happens to brake pipes generally). Regards G |
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