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NeinElf
 
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  Member No: #1679
Location: Cork |
Howdy My names T.J., and I've just picked up a 2006 2.7HDi with Lounge pack. It's black with cream interior. I've no idea of what specific trim level it has, I'm only getting up to speed with the nuances of these at present. It has JBL audio, xenons that turn, outdated satnav mapping and lots of other fun stuff. It currently has 91,000 miles on it, and it's last owner bought it in 2007. It has a full Citroen history to 2011 & reputable specialist from there. The history is robust and the last 18months have seen lots done - alternator, 'box & suspension fluid & filters, discs & pads all round, heater plugs and lots of evidence of regular ball joint replacements incl the odd wishbone! Finally, 1k miles ago the belts incl water pump, coolant hoses & radiator were done. It was an impulse purchase (I still have the 159SW JTS we bought in 2008 and which only has 54k up on it; it will have to go but it makes me sad - we love it) on a long term desire. Put simply, there are cars the world will never see again - the wankel RX8 and N/A V10 M5 to name a couple. The C6 is one of those cars. A proper Citroen, redolent of all the marques past glories. Ignoring the pointless 'sportiness' that afflicts so much everyday mid-size execs, it is unashamedly luxurious and ... wafty. I like that. That it is stunning inside and out is a bonus. 3 days and 350miles in and I am loving the interior to a point that is becoming a bit 'fanboy' already. It responds readily to a bit of elbow grease and TLC too, which is a sign of the inherent materials quality in my view. the OBC is also saying it got over 39mpg on the motorway and a running average of 34mpg, despite being stuck in slow-moving traffic yesterday. I'll validate with what the tank brim says. Alas it is not all plain sailing. I think I have an airlock in the coolant circuit - I got an 'engine temp' warning yesterday (Oil temp was stable and normal); investigation showed the header tank was very low and the bonnet insulation above damp with some water spray on the hydraulic unit cover, suggesting pressure and discharge. One for the mechanics on Tuesday. I'm hoping a re-bleed will cure all. Anyway, I am here eyes wide open. Without wanting to be to negatively stereotypical, it's French  , it is 8yrs and approaching 100k miles, and it will need TLC. I'm hoping I can learn from and try to support the community here to keep that TLC pro-active and economic. Cars like these need to endure on our roads for as long as possible. TJ |
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Jodyone
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 Member No: #1240
Location: Cornwall |
Congratulations! You'll love it. My car is a similar vintage and mileage and I've been along for its last 30K miles. So far I've only had predictable work to do generally (wishbones, ball joints) though I was stopped by an unexpected water pump failure. Apart from that -depressingly and predictably- being woefully "dealt" with by a Citroen dealership (I ended up going to an independent), it has been a delightful and luxurious time. I agree that the materials quality is higher than may be expected. At 100K miles ours is still basically immaculate everywhere- ever at high wear points (bolsters, steering wheel, handle shrouds etc). The C5 my parents recently bought is only 3 years old and 30K miles but possibly a bit tattier inside, and many plastics are painted and already wearing visibly. It's a very nice car with much switchgear and so on in common, but somehow doesn't have the sense of occasion of the '6. All over the C6 are little details to subdue noise and possible rattles- the (complicated!) centre rear seatbelt lives in a little padded compartment, I noticed the other day, and there are patches of good quality felt attached to anything that might rub against anything else. I think this car was designed and assembled with more interest and care than the market demanded. |
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cruiserphil
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    Member No: #38
Location: Celbridge |
Welcome TJ, From a fellow IRL owner, Regards, Phil C. |
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gmerry
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 Member No: #21
Location: Scotland |
Hi TJ, regarding the possible coolant airlock, your symptoms suggest it might be a leaking thermostat tank. SteveE3 has an excellent guide on replacement of the same. Regards G |
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NeinElf
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Member No: #1679
Location: Cork |
Hi Phil & G. G - many thanks for that. The car is off on a flatbed in the coming days to get this issue investigated so I'll include that suggestion & guide with it. EDIT I've done a search but the guide isn't leaping out at me, I have to say. Plenty of discussion around the thermostat housing failures alright, but the guide itself is elusive
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Jodyone
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Member No: #1240
Location: Cornwall |
NeinElf wrote ... EDIT I've done a search but the guide isn't leaping out at me, I have to say. Plenty of discussion around the thermostat housing failures alright, but the guide itself is elusive Here ya go: - Click Here - |
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jmcgowan
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 Member No: #1864
Location: Co Meath |
Hi All, I have recently bought a 2007 C6 2.7 HDI Exclusive with lounge pack black with cream interior and 94k miles on the clock. I had wanted a lower mileage one but decided to go for this one as I had been looking for so long and there are so few available. Anyway after a regular service and being told by a specialist not to go too fast as the front suspension bushes are worn I set off to France en route to Spain on holidays. Apart from a fuel gauge which moved up and down all seemed well. On the second day having driven approx 250 miles with two breaks and keeping within the speed limit the engine overheated. I had the temp gauge and oil pressure gauge on the OBC and both had been perfect. In any event the warning sign came up going up a bridge into a large town. As we started to descend the temperature began to drop. However within a matter of seconds of the temp warning a further warning came up that the oil pressure was too low. I stopped as soon as I could as we were in the middle one of three lanes of traffic on a bridge. When the engine cooled I added water and the engine started ok. We were beside a hotel. The next day I took it to the citroen garage without any problem with either the water temp gauge or the oil pressure gauge. The citroen garage fixed the leak and advised me I also had a hydraulic fluid leak which I knew of. They added two litres. We set off again and twenty miles down the road the temp started to rise again. I stopped and put 4 litres of water into it. The next town we stopped at the citroen garage. After almost a week they diagnosed a blown head gasket. While the car is running ok the pressure in the coolant system is too high and will only blow further holes. They quoted 7.5k to fix the car. Having taken advice from a specialist here in Ireland I am considering replacing the engine at 10k. The expense of bringing the car home uses up any saving in having the work done here. The second citroen garage advised that there was too much hydraulic fluid in the system so the suspension struts needed replacing as both were leaking. Has anybody had a similar problem? Am I mad to get a new engine? I would appreciate hearing. Many thanks, James |
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Trainman
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 Member No: #86
Location: Penwortham |
James when you say "recently" how recently are we talking? And where from? My advice would be to contact the selling vendor, in the UK we have something called the sale of goods act, I'm not sure about Ireland, but it's a good starting point |
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jmcgowan
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Member No: #1864
Location: Co Meath |
Thanks for your reply. We do have the sale of goods act here with some amendments. Unfortunately I bought the car privately so the act does not afford the same protections as it would if I had bought from a dealer. I have been on to the vendor as I bought at the end of July. He denies any problem with the car. I had specifically told him I was driving the car to the south of Spain and wanted to know of anything needing done. It was only afterwards that I noticed the ac blowing hot on the drivers side which would have been enough to put me off. Bizarrely when the first citroen garage fixed the leak the ac worked ok. I am still not convinced there was no link having had an XM in the past with a heater radiator problem. I will have to consider suing him but I will have to consider having the car repaired and suing him for the cost of repairs. | ||
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speedfix
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Member No: #1043
Location: south west |
Did you have breakdown recovery in place before your trip abroad? IMO get the car recovered back to your garage and let them carry out a confirmed failings of the cause of the water issues, there can be many some that can occur with no signs before hand. IMO the 2007 car will not be economical to repair better to get what you can for it and sell as a non runner. |
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jmcgowan
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Member No: #1864
Location: Co Meath |
No. Im afraid not. I didnt even think of it as my own insurance has roadside cover which only covers me for €250 abroad. Years ago I brought a DS to France and had full AA cover but no problems. It was an old car. Didnt think Id need it for an uptodate car. Unfortunately I have to bring the car back to get rid of it as it is not worth much in France given it is RHD. The expense of bringing it back may be as much as I get for it. |
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e3steve
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 Member No: #1163
Location: Warsash, Hants & Palma de Mallorca, Spain |
Whereabouts did you have to abandon it, James? | ||
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jmcgowan
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Member No: #1864
Location: Co Meath |
Thanks e3steve. Didn't realise you had come back. It's in the citroen garage in mont de marsan awaiting my decision whether to fix it or just bring it home. Can't decide what to do. Cheaper to fix it there than bring it home and get it repaired here. Big decision though to spend 10k € on a car that cost less than that though I would have an almost new car having done front suspension and brakes if I can trust them to do a good job. | ||
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cruiserphil
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Member No: #38
Location: Celbridge |
J, Is getting it home prohibitively expensive, if you don't mind me asking? Regards, Phil C. |
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jmcgowan
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Member No: #1864
Location: Co Meath |
I was originally quoted €2k to get it to the ferry in France. There is then the ferry charge and the price of towing it from the ferry. I have asked around since and am unlikely to be able to do it for less than €1k. | ||
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