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rwb   
Sun Jun 23 2024, 11:58am

Joined: Dec 22 2014
Member No: #1988
Location: Telford
Only one of my door cards lights up -- and it's barely noticeable.
Therefore I think that I need to change the bulbs.

How do I get the door cards off?
I can get the torx head bolts out but then it's still stuck fast.
Don't want to just violence it off because that always ends with broken plastic clips/tabs.

What is the consensus on what replacement bulbs to use?
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Do I need resistors for something? Why? What do you do with them?
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MGmike   
Thu Jul 11 2024, 11:06pm

Joined: May 21 2017
Member No: #3151
Location: South Queensferry
Have you removed the T20 screw at the rear end of the door card just below the lock?

You also need to remove the tweeter and it's housing at the front as the card lifts up to remove once you have released the clips by pulling it from the bottom. The clips are a good design and unlikely to break when using appropriate force to pull the card from the door. I recommend using a trim removal tool to help the process but be careful not the scratch the paint.

Oh and you need to remove the ashtray (where fitted) as there's a hidden T20 in the bottom. You also need to remove the switch panel to disconnect the cable(s) and the puddle light at the bottom just levers out. I think you might need to remove a cover on the lock leaver but don't quote me on that one!

Can't help on how to make the lights better as my cards are black and therefore the lights are redundant!
rwb   
Mon Aug 05 2024, 08:09am

Joined: Dec 22 2014
Member No: #1988
Location: Telford
Bolts, ashtray, speaker, puddle light all come out no problem.

Do you then just pull really hard?
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C6Dave   
Mon Aug 05 2024, 10:48am


Joined: Oct 01 2009
Member No: #1
Location: Northumberland
rwb wrote ...

Bolts, ashtray, speaker, puddle light all come out no problem.

Do you then just pull really hard?


If you're sure that they are all out, start at the bottom edge and expect to break a few plastic clips....
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rwb   
Fri Sep 06 2024, 01:42pm

Joined: Dec 22 2014
Member No: #1988
Location: Telford
Pulled as hard as I dare but it's not for shifting.
More violence?
What clips are they? I have some 6991.Y8.
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C6Dave   
Fri Sep 06 2024, 02:32pm


Joined: Oct 01 2009
Member No: #1
Location: Northumberland
rwb wrote ...

Pulled as hard as I dare but it's not for shifting.
More violence?
What clips are they? I have some 6991.Y8.

Are you 100% sure that ALL the screws are out around the edges, down in the centre pull at '3' you only need the screw 'd' removed, the switch unit should come out on the card.

Ignore 4, 5 & 6 as they don't affect the door card removal

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rwb   
Thu Sep 19 2024, 07:55pm

Joined: Dec 22 2014
Member No: #1988
Location: Telford
Finally got round to having another go.

1 screw underneath the ash tray

3 screws in the top of the door pocket

Puddle light out.

Then what?


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MGmike   
Thu Sep 19 2024, 08:12pm

Joined: May 21 2017
Member No: #3151
Location: South Queensferry
tweeter and housing off at the top front.

T20 screw on the lock end about 150-200mm down from the top

door lock trim

switch panel

Then leaver a clip loose at the bottom rear corner and follow around to other clips. Once all the clips are loose, lift up and withdraw from the door. when withdrawing disconnect the ambient light.


rwb   
Sat Sep 21 2024, 01:46pm

Joined: Dec 22 2014
Member No: #1988
Location: Telford
MGmike wrote ...

tweeter and housing off at the top front.
door lock trim
switch panel


OK

MGmike wrote ...

T20 screw on the lock end about 150-200mm down from the top


No such thing.

MGmike wrote ...

Then leaver a clip loose at the bottom rear corner


Yanked it really hard and there was an almighty crack and it won't go back on.
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MGmike   
Sat Sep 21 2024, 05:56pm

Joined: May 21 2017
Member No: #3151
Location: South Queensferry
rwb wrote ...


MGmike wrote ...

T20 screw on the lock end about 150-200mm down from the top


No such thing.

There should be! Is there a hole where a screw should be?

rwb wrote ...

Yanked it really hard and there was an almighty crack and it won't go back on.



In your picture you can see the two halves of the clip (pink and orange bits). If they are lined up correctly all you'll need is to give the door card a bash with the side of your fist to get it back in. Once it's been off a couple of time it gets easier

MGmike   
Sat Sep 21 2024, 06:05pm

Joined: May 21 2017
Member No: #3151
Location: South Queensferry
Ah, just realised from the pic you're doing the rear door! No T20 on those and no tweeter in the top corner.

BTW the lights don't show well on a black interior. Before you rip the door card off stick your hand under the light to make sure it's not working. Also, it's a LED projected along a clear plastic rod. These are very unlikely to fail but I guess not impossible.
C6Dave   
Sat Sep 21 2024, 07:47pm


Joined: Oct 01 2009
Member No: #1
Location: Northumberland
MGmike wrote ...

....BTW the lights don't show well on a black interior. Before you rip the door card off stick your hand under the light to make sure it's not working. Also, it's a LED projected along a clear plastic rod. These are very unlikely to fail but I guess not impossible.

Really don't show much light unless it's really dark outside. Under street lights they don't show a lot.

There was a thread on this many years back IIRC
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rwb   
Thu Oct 24 2024, 03:50am

Joined: Dec 22 2014
Member No: #1988
Location: Telford
Definitely only the driver's door is working.

MOT day today -- setting off to Welwyn Garden City at 5.
Dreading it.
Since booking the washer pump has failed and the passenger door glass isn't dropping.

If I get home today then I might feel optimistic about having another look at the weekend...
So: just put harder?! (That feels very wrong.)
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