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chillmax   
Thu Apr 27 2023, 12:14pm

Joined: Mar 27 2014
Member No: #1648
Location: Mayo
Hi All

As one does on the odd occasion, I've been looking at car videos on YT and came across 'Hubnut' driving his friends C6, which he apparently bought for £750.

'Hubnut' himself, to me seems to be a typical fan of older Citroen and his mechanic friend 'UPnDOWN' appears equally so. He is very fond of big old floaters XM's BX's Xantia's etc, but is much less flattering of his C6, has anyone seen him?

I left a few comments and he shot back quite promptly stating that the C6's suspension and driving abilities just aren't that impressive compared to an XM for instance. In a quick back'n'forth, there was nothing I could say to sway him that a sorted and well looked after C6 is arguably the best Citroen suspension ever. How can he trash the C6 when he bought a basket case for £750? He then said that all of the C6's he'd driven weren't that impressive, so I said that all of those cars likley had problems or maintenance issues and were't right; that was the end of the conversation.

Having had 19 XM's, with 5 late series 24v's and a C6 at the same time, I can assure him that although a lovely XM can be very nice, it simply can't touch a correctly running C6.

Thoughts anyone?

Best - Justin
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tich731   
Thu Apr 27 2023, 12:18pm
Joined: Feb 25 2017
Member No: #3023
Location: Bury St Edmunds
I have an XM and a C6, and I would agree that the XM is very capable and can be hustled along, the C6 though is more wafty and luxurious.
adamw57   
Wed Jul 05 2023, 05:28pm
Joined: May 13 2023
Member No: #5259
Location: Northamptonshire
I’ve never been in an XM sadly but I’ve owned 3 C5 X7s with various engines and a non-hydractive Xantia (new spheres and LHM) and they certainly couldn’t touch the C6 for ride quality. On paper the C6 should have the superior ride in my opinion - double wishbone suspension and Amvar damping. I reckon a CX would give it a run for its money however.

As for Hub Nut, I’ve enjoyed his videos and generally respect his opinions on cars but as you say, a £750 C6 is probably not a good comparison. I also believe he mentioned in one of his videos that he drove a 4 cylinder C6 which I believe doesn’t have Amvar so perhaps that’s why he’s underwhelmed?
Jamess   
Thu Jul 06 2023, 11:11am
Joined: Jul 04 2023
Member No: #5301
Location: Scotland
The UpandDown C6 YT videos have had quite an affect on me.I had an XM for 10 years with no real issues, so don't have a pre conceived idea about odd citroens being unreliable etc. Think its because its a mechanic struggling to fix things, with more skill and facilities I will ever have, so a bit off putting - rather than a punter saying they are good/bad which you can take as opinion. So I went from probably going to get one before they are all gone, to really not sure. Certainly wouldn't buy one from a car dealer who would know nothing of its history and maintenance.
C6less   
Fri Jul 07 2023, 07:38am
Joined: Feb 24 2019
Member No: #3841
Location: Kerry
Hi Justin,
Are you running your c6 on Irish roads?
onthecut   
Sat Jul 08 2023, 08:39am
Joined: Sep 20 2016
Member No: #2793
Location: West Mids
Hi James.

My feeling is that if you do enough reading and listening, you would never buy any car that was remotely different. The XM used to get just the same sort of press as I recall. When you think about it, the C6, with the exception of the suspension, is no different to any other comparable size and price bracket car of the time and therefore any more or less prone to problems.

I've had mine about 7 years now and done around 60k miles in it (taking the miles up to 150k so far). In that time, the only absolutely specific Citroenesque issues I've had to tackle are both front struts (leaking) and failure of the suspension pump.

Given the relatively few C6 they made altogether, I do think that parts specific to it will become a real issue in due course. When I recently replaced the other front strut, I was amazed to see sonmething like a 2022 manufacture date on the new one, but then couldn't help wondering if it was part of a final batch.

If you decide to take the plunge, the main thing is to take the prospective purchase for a good test run and put the suspension through its paces. Always look in the expansion bottle -- if it doesn't look like a clean anti-freeze mix, be suspicious.

Mike.






kitch   
Wed Apr 30 2025, 03:55pm
Joined: Sep 19 2020
Member No: #4485
Location: Hampshire
I'm the UPnDOWN channel in question. It wasn't a "bad YouTube review" from HubNut, he just felt that compared with previous Citroens, the C6 didn't quite stack up as much as he was hoping.

Personally, I'm not convinced either, but then it's all subjective. What one person likes, another may not. I think the green-blooded stuff rides better, you believe the C6 does. Neither of us are wrong, or right.

Pretty weird thread, tbh.
C6Dave   
Wed Apr 30 2025, 06:26pm


Joined: Oct 01 2009
Member No: #1
Location: Northumberland
kitch wrote ...

Personally, I'm not convinced either, but then it's all subjective. What one person likes, another may not. I think the green-blooded stuff rides better, you believe the C6 does. Neither of us are wrong, or right.


Currently, running a 'green-blooded' DS20 for me, having taken 2 different C6's to France on holiday, as a long distance cruiser, the C6 is a far better proposition, but we are talking about technology half a century apart.

Now to look at, there is no comparison, the DS20 wins hands down and still has that 'spaceship' look
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Tjensen   
Wed Apr 30 2025, 07:48pm

Joined: Jul 17 2012
Member No: #954
Location: Bergen
Mechanical, hydraulic and electronic: C6 has a more advanced suspension than XM in all 3 aspects. And more comfortable om most roads. BUT: limited suspension travel and more priority on high-speed properties makes it unfit for some conditions (silent police etc). Here DS was a just unbelievable good...
 

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