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gmerry   
Fri Dec 11 2009, 09:00pm
Joined: Dec 11 2009
Member No: #21
Location: Scotland
 For the 2.7 Turbodiesel, I'm assuming an intermediate oil change is a very good idea!
Is it a realistic DIY job. I'm assuming there's an undertray to be removed a bit like the C4. Will the oil need to be ACEA C3 to suit the FAP filter?
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C6Dave   
Fri Dec 11 2009, 11:16pm

Joined: Oct 01 2009
Member No: #1
Location: Northumberland
 Welcome, Depending on your actual driving it may be a good idea to use the 'Severe Operating Conditions' schedule which will mean a reduced oil change schedule

For a Turbo HDi this is a good way of protecting a turbo from potential early failure

Best to check the service booklet for the oil spec for your particular engine (Citroen have changed some of the scheduling), I haven't gotten around to reading mine yet as the car was serviced and the oil changed when I bought it

I'll have a look for the info and post it in the morning
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tonyrome   
Sat Dec 12 2009, 02:03pm
Joined: Nov 22 2009
Member No: #15
 Citroen dealers and independent specialists advised me that intermediate oil changes are essential on the 2.7HDi. The oil/filter change should be done at least every year, despite Citroen's original recommendation of 2 year/20K mile intervals. Leaving oil in any engine, let alone a diesel engine, that long is looking for trouble.

I had an oil change before I collected the car and have recently had another one, as part of the full 20K mile service. Mine was done at a Citroen dealer but I can't see any reason why it couldn't be done as a DIY job. The oil used was not C3, though. C4, Total Quartz INEO ECS5W30.
C6Dave   
Sat Dec 12 2009, 03:00pm

Joined: Oct 01 2009
Member No: #1
Location: Northumberland
 Thanks Tony.

I have confirmed the schedule in a FAQ: - Click Here - but I would err on the side of caution and go annually or 10,000 miles for an oil change on the HDi

Oil spec should be (click to enlarge):
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gmerry   
Sat Dec 12 2009, 10:52pm
Joined: Dec 11 2009
Member No: #21
Location: Scotland
 Hi, I guess there were two main parts to my posting: A/the feasibility of DIY intermediate oil changes and B/ the Oil Spec to use.

For A, have any owners changed their own oil?. For an intermediate service? Is it a big deal jacking the car and accessing the drain plug and filter?
For B, I'm pretty sure that an ACEA C3 type of oil will be required due to the FAP filter and requirement to limit ash residues which would not regenerate and quickly block the filter (compared to B3/B5 series oils). I'll do a bit more checking on this.
Note, ACEA C3 went through a major re-specification around 2007 in order to improve the wear minimum standards. I'll post more on this later.
Regards

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C6Dave   
Sun Dec 13 2009, 08:24am

Joined: Oct 01 2009
Member No: #1
Location: Northumberland
 I can't find any guide yet on the EPC but jacking the car is easy by use of the suspension system

I do know it takes 5 litres of oil (not including the filter) and 5.25 litres of oil including the filter and the difference between high and low levels is 1.7 litres (2.7 HDi)

The oil should be warm when drained as well

Given that the oil needs to be disposed of safely these days, it's often easier to get a 'quick service' outlet to do it and not much more expensive either that DIY by the time you have bought the oil and a filter.
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tonyrome   
Sun Dec 13 2009, 12:25pm
Joined: Nov 22 2009
Member No: #15
gmerry wrote ...
Hi, I guess there were two main parts to my posting: A/the feasibility of DIY intermediate oil changes and B/ the Oil Spec to use. For B, I'm pretty sure that an ACEA C3 type of oil will be required

I though I'd already answered this?! Apparently, it's C4, as detailed above.

C6Dave wrote ...
Given that the oil needs to be disposed of safely these days, it's often easier to get a 'quick service' outlet to do it and not much more expensive either that DIY by the time you have bought the oil and a filter.

I tend to agree. I'm not sure there's really much of a saving to be made by doing it yourself, even without accounting for your time.
C6Dave   
Thu Apr 12 2012, 01:49pm

Joined: Oct 01 2009
Member No: #1
Location: Northumberland
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patcrean406   
Sat Nov 29 2014, 12:18pm
Joined: Oct 12 2014
Member No: #1894
Location: laois
 I bought a five gallon container of total for 100 Euros.

Should get me through 4 oil changes.
Tjensen   
Sat Nov 29 2014, 02:23pm
Joined: Jul 17 2012
Member No: #954
Location: Bergen
 No, it is ACEA C2 in the PSA approved version B71 2290. C3 has too much "ash", but some oils (like Mobil 1 ESP 5-30) have passed both C2 and C3 requirements. And use the new 2007 standard. C1 and the new C4 should be safe, but C1 might be changed more often (less additives). And the Total Quartz INEO ECS5W30 is C2, not C4 ????


 

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