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Trainman   
Fri Feb 19 2016, 06:51am

Joined: Apr 12 2010
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Location: Penwortham
Here's the picture the link sent me to

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 321dave (20 February 2016)
gmerry   
Fri Feb 19 2016, 08:03am
Joined: Dec 11 2009
Member No: #21
Location: Scotland
Hi 321Steve, when it comes to using your comprehensive kit, keep in mind that the most difficult pin to install is the crankshaft locking pin installed at the starter ring gear end (transmission housing): its difficult because the access is so poor. There are workaround where you have to modify the tool (there are links on this forum showing how). One thing to keep in mind with regards to crankshaft locking is that although this is the way that the "book" says it is to be done, E3steve has "proven" that there is no need to lock the crankshaft at all and it will just stay put quite nicely on its own.

Myself, I've only ever personally changed the cambelt on a 4 pot where mostly I would certainly want to lock the crankshaft. I guess with the compression overlap of a V6 there isn't the same issue.

Anyhow, from all accounts locking the crankshaft is the most fiddly part of the entire job so not doing this might be a very good idea.

Please wade in if I've got any of this wrong.

Regards
G
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 321dave (20 February 2016)
cruiserphil   
Fri Feb 19 2016, 09:44am

Joined: Jan 24 2010
Member No: #38
Location: Celbridge
Steve,

Didn't spot the link, thanks
321dave   
Fri Feb 19 2016, 10:18am
Joined: Sep 09 2011
Member No: #614
Location: Dublin
cruiserphil wrote ...

Steve,

Didn't spot the link, thanks


Hi all,
Steve, I think something might be going wrong with the site, as Norman had trouble a few days ago posting photos. Then yesterday, I suddenly had trouble also!
I tried everything and still it would not allow any photo(s) through to the forum! I was using my IPad at the time and the largest upload was 1mb. Thanks for posting up the picture I was trying to refer to. Will be using that kit hopefully in a weeks time.


Just to report on the actual kit. Quality is ok, the plastic blister case latches can almost break your hands trying to open it up. I now use a screw driver to open it and stand on it to close it
Dan595   
Fri Feb 19 2016, 10:21am
Joined: Nov 26 2010
Member No: #299
Location: Wiltshire
Re: what the fixed price offer contains, I think my dealer did belt, idlers, tensioner for £290. They also did the water pump and aux. belt for cost of parts only.

They were similarly helpful when doing the DMF change - in effect charged the fixed price for the clutch replacement plus the cost of the DMF itself.
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 321dave (20 February 2016)
Trainman   
Fri Feb 19 2016, 10:41am

Joined: Apr 12 2010
Member No: #86
Location: Penwortham
321dave wrote ...

I think something might be going wrong with the site, as Norman had trouble a few days ago posting photos. Then yesterday, I suddenly had trouble also!
I tried everything and still it would not allow any photo(s) through to the forum! I was using my IPad at the time and the largest upload was 1mb.



will have a look, we did have a couple of issues the other day, but everything should be working now.....
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 321dave (09 March 2016)
e3steve   
Fri Feb 19 2016, 11:16am
Joined: Jan 21 2013
Member No: #1163
Location: Warsash, Hants & Palma de Mallorca, Spain
Valleybuoy wrote ...

Thanks Dan... someone posted a thread somewhere on the site about a 96K C6 belt going, and the car being sold for scrap. So erring on the cautious side..

It was me! I posted on the forum about the 97k mile 2.7 C6 on eBay which was being broken for parts (by Citropro) after it's timing belt failed.
e3steve   
Fri Feb 19 2016, 11:20am
Joined: Jan 21 2013
Member No: #1163
Location: Warsash, Hants & Palma de Mallorca, Spain
321dave wrote ...

Hi Steve,
I bought a full locking kit for the various cams and I believe there's one in the kit to lock the water pump pulley so the bolts can be undone.
Only issue I have is working out what's what in this kit? It wasn't the dearest bit of kit but I hope it's good enough I think it should be to do the timing belt job.

Any idea which pins in the picture below correspond to the the ones needed to lock the cams and which one goes for example to lock the water pump. Thanks again for sharing your expertise with the forum.


I cracked-off all the pulley's screws before letting the tension off the old belt, Dave; just smacked the breaker bar with the heel of my palm.
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 321dave (20 February 2016)
e3steve   
Fri Feb 19 2016, 11:26am
Joined: Jan 21 2013
Member No: #1163
Location: Warsash, Hants & Palma de Mallorca, Spain
Trainman wrote ...

321dave wrote ...

I think something might be going wrong with the site, as Norman had trouble a few days ago posting photos. Then yesterday, I suddenly had trouble also!
I tried everything and still it would not allow any photo(s) through to the forum! I was using my IPad at the time and the largest upload was 1mb.



will have a look, we did have a couple of issues the other day, but everything should be working now.....
I think Norman's issue was to do with image filesize, Steve. I picked up his files from the links and compressed them using Microsoft Picture Manager (bundled with MS Office Pro) and posted them with no problems.
321dave   
Fri Feb 19 2016, 06:43pm
Joined: Sep 09 2011
Member No: #614
Location: Dublin
e3steve wrote ...

321dave wrote ...

Hi Steve,
I bought a full locking kit for the various cams and I believe there's one in the kit to lock the water pump pulley so the bolts can be undone.
Only issue I have is working out what's what in this kit? It wasn't the dearest bit of kit but I hope it's good enough I think it should be to do the timing belt job.

Any idea which pins in the picture below correspond to the the ones needed to lock the cams and which one goes for example to lock the water pump. Thanks again for sharing your expertise with the forum.


I cracked-off all the pulley's screws before letting the tension off the old belt, Dave; just smacked the breaker bar with the heel of my palm.



Thanks for that tip Steve. I probably wouldn't have thought of that in fact. It's like cracking the bolts on the wheels before jacking the car up. Any other bits of advice. G, mentioned the locking pin being difficult to access. I'm also following this tutorial, I think you mentioned it previously - Click Here -
Norman   
Fri Feb 19 2016, 06:43pm
Joined: Feb 06 2011
Member No: #364
Location: Huddersfield and Torremolinos Spain
What I found strange was it allowed me to post the first of three then refused to post the second and third it's as there is a maximum file size and the allocation was full
321dave   
Sat Feb 20 2016, 01:31am
Joined: Sep 09 2011
Member No: #614
Location: Dublin
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What I found strange was it allowed me to post the first of three then refused to post the second and third it's as there is a maximum file size and the allocation was full
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Still trying!
321dave   
Sat Feb 20 2016, 01:39am
Joined: Sep 09 2011
Member No: #614
Location: Dublin
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What I found strange was it allowed me to post the first of three then refused to post the second and third it's as there is a maximum file size and the allocation was full
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Still trying!
Trainman   
Sat Feb 20 2016, 08:56am

Joined: Apr 12 2010
Member No: #86
Location: Penwortham
I've started a new thread for the picture issues rather than tie up this thread - Click Here -
321dave   
Sat Feb 20 2016, 04:18pm
Joined: Sep 09 2011
Member No: #614
Location: Dublin
Trainman wrote ...

I've started a new thread for the picture issues rather than tie up this thread - Click Here -


Many thanks Steve
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