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12 years old so fitting new spheres and changing LDS fluid. |
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speedfix
 
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  Member No: #1043
Location: south west |
Giving the 3.0 hdi a full service and a few extra jobs that are due to the age (12years) second auto fluid flush. Change and the seven spheres with a lds change, not that i could fault the suspension much but will be interesting to see the end results when completed. Just doing the work in the mornings due the hot sunny weather. Four more to do!    |
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speedfix
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Member No: #1043
Location: south west |
All completed yesterday without any dramas. A must is to use Lexia to depressurize the system but first remove the lds tank lid. The ride is a little less firm and softer on pot holes for the suspension bushes. The rear is more softer than the front but sport mode makes it a true drivers car. A trip will settle the relearning of the auto etc ECU's today. Cannot seem to put pics up on this reply, must be my old age! |
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ozeddy
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  Member No: #5052
Location: Cheltenham |
Thank you for sharing that experience, speedfix. I was thinking of doing the same to mine and am encouraged by your results. | ||
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Hattershaun
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   Member No: #320
Location: Bedfordshire, UK |
I recently had all 7 spheres of my C6 regassed by Pleiades, resulting in a worthwhile improvement in ride quality. All spheres had lost some gas pressure, e.g. front outers were at 38bar instead of 50bar. |
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321dave
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Member No: #614
Location: Dublin |
Hattershaun wrote ... I recently had all 7 spheres of my C6 regassed by Pleiades, resulting in a worthwhile improvement in ride quality. All spheres had lost some gas pressure, e.g. front outers were at 38bar instead of 50bar. Hi Speedfix, good job. Just wondering were you 12yr old rear corner spheres as stuck on as my badly rusted spheres were. I had to remove my corner strut in order to lever the sphere free. They were seized on in my case! I was planning to replace one of the rear struts for a new one as there was a small leak visible anyway, but they really were far gone after 16yr in my case. Will put up some photos a bit later on. |
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speedfix
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Member No: #1043
Location: south west |
After a good run down to the coast yesterday the car is running better than when bought eight years ago. How can this be, auto box flush is a must it seems, the ratio changes are now as good as a RR. Front suspension bushes, Frip joints and drop links must all be good for the suspension ECU to to work correctly. The 7 Spheres i used are Lizarte, two year guarantee bought and delivered (E-bay) under £400-00. 321 Dave the spheres were tight but not rusty, this is due to a spray on mixture i make and use, have done for years with no adverse effects on units in the area, pic of the old spheres even the spiders make webs on top of the old mixture.  [link]  I use a blunt type of tool in an impact gun for the initial movement when undoing the spheres. Lexia is a must for some work but I also use Snap-on Solus, much quicker and refined.  Now I can upload a pic in a reply!. |
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321dave
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Member No: #614
Location: Dublin |
Nice with no rust! I’ve had to do a lot of cleaning in my case. I’m using the cheaper Citroen dealer Eurorepar spheres for the first time as i also fitted Lizate to the front a few year back. I’m tempted to have them also tested now. Might give in to the temptation soon. | ||
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cit-rotti
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 Member No: #3753
Location: Bayern |
The balls from "Lizarte" only have a single membrane and do not hold the taring pressure as long as the original ball - these have a triple membrane. Balls with a single membrane usually only last 4-6 years - lose pressure much faster and refilling makes little sense because a weak membrane has too much wear. An original ball lasts 10-12 years with moderate pressure losses and can be refilled several times without problems because a refill also lasts approx. 8 years. If you want a particularly soft suspension - provided, of course, that all other components function correctly - you can choose a slightly higher taring pressure for the "refill" - about 5-7 bar. New, non-overlaid original balls have about 5 bar more, so that the customer feels the softer suspension immediately. Greetings Wolfgang |
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speedfix
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Member No: #1043
Location: south west |
You may be correct however when i was looking to purchase a C6 when the cars were five or six years old i seem to remember reading the diaphragms failing, this would be the OM ones. I would like to think that the failing was down to worn suspension components that can fail like the FRIP joints and bushes, not forgetting the effects of wheels out of dynamic balance etc. IMO keep all of the above in good order and go for the Lizarte type better value but time will tell. BTW i have replaced single diaphragms on RR spheres and have lasted 18 years+ but of course the suspension is not loaded like a C6.  Must stop getting them now, i have model engine types, maybe just one more a petrol one!!! But oh the cars are pure delight.  |
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speedfix
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Member No: #1043
Location: south west |
Hi Wolfgang just out of interest do you have any dealing in the German sphere manufacture Ferdinand Bilstein GmbH + Co. KG. Just saying! |
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cit-rotti
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Member No: #3753
Location: Bayern |
speedfix wrote ... Hi Wolfgang just out of interest do you have any dealing in the German sphere manufacture Ferdinand Bilstein GmbH + Co. KG. Just saying! great picture - a Rolls with a trailer - I didn't know there were Rolls/Bentley with a trailer hitch. I'm just an old hobbyist. I don't know this company, If I need original parts, I buy them from Post/Certus via a friend at dealer prices. Certus also has an Internet portal for private customers. - Click Here - The prices correspond to the price suggested by PSA - sometimes with a small discount. In principle, anyone can fill balls themselves using the technology available for sale - however, for the C5/C6, a thread must be cut and then a filling valve is installed, which makes it possible to refill if necessary. If you want to have this done by a company, you can contact e.g. the company - Click Here - company. But such specialist companies can certainly also be found in England. |
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speedfix
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Member No: #1043
Location: south west |
cit-rotti, hi yes a tow bar kit was made by Witter i seem to remember fitted mine many years ago at the time of putting LPG on, 90 litre tank. RR had the Citroen hydraulic system under licence and did variations to it, running rams on the rear with self leveling etc. One good point was the checking of the depletion of nitrogen in the spheres, this was carried out by pumping the brakes pedal until the dash warning light illuninated, anything under 15 pumps and it was time to recharge them. Think i will stay with the Lizarte type and see how they go, ordered the seven and and delivered in a couple of days £385-00 total. BTW filled the C6 tank with fuel and the ride takes me back to my SM days when using the power, rear end sits down in a most elegant comfort mode. Wife now will not ride in Tesla even with air suspension she says it is to harsh. The C6 has now spoilt her completely, oh dear. |
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