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Chris Burmajster   
Wed Jun 29 2016, 03:11pm
Joined: Apr 03 2010
Member No: #81
Location: South East
Can anybody else confirm the pin prick in the air conditioning? It has been mentioned a number of times, but without success. I (think) I must have it, because I have topped up the air con 3 times and 3 times it has collapsed after a while. So I'm now looking for solutions.
gmerry   
Thu Jun 30 2016, 08:49am
Joined: Dec 11 2009
Member No: #21
Location: Scotland
Hi Chris, I'm probably a bit thick on this one. Do you suspect you have a hole somewhere in the AC system? If so, best take it to a specialist AC technician who will charge the system with dye and trace it with a UV light. In fact, first of all they will put the entire system under vacuum and if it fails to maintain a vacuum, then that is definite proof of a hole/leak. Apologies if you have already done the above!
G
Dan595   
Thu Jun 30 2016, 09:01am
Joined: Nov 26 2010
Member No: #299
Location: Wiltshire
An AC specialist would soon find a leak - my Citroen dealer did...
Condensor had a hole, (aftermarket) warranty covered it as there was no sign of external damage. I think others have had condensor failure, but C6 is so rare that getting meaningful data is difficult. I think now 4+ years since replacement with air con on all the time and still cold.
pattersonoxford   
Thu Jun 30 2016, 06:20pm
Joined: Feb 09 2010
Member No: #48
Location: Oxford
My 2006 C6 (very low mileage at 38,000) has never had an air con service or recharge and still blows cold. Knock on wood.
gmerry   
Thu Jun 30 2016, 06:25pm
Joined: Dec 11 2009
Member No: #21
Location: Scotland
Ditto, 2008 C6 yet to have its first aircon service and blows very cold (touch wood also)

G
Hattershaun   
Thu Jun 30 2016, 07:33pm
Joined: Dec 19 2010
Member No: #320
Location: Bedfordshire, UK
My 2007 petrol C6 had fully working and cold aircon when I bought it last Autumn.

However, as I'm curious and like things to be 'just right' I had the aircon serviced.
The system is supposed to hold 525g of gas, mine had 160g and was working OK.

I'm happy to have spent £50 having the gas topped up and know everything is cool.

Chris Burmajster   
Fri Jul 01 2016, 08:17am
Joined: Apr 03 2010
Member No: #81
Location: South East
Thank you to all who responded. I'm going to take it to a Citroen dealer and await the outcome!
cruiserphil   
Fri Jul 01 2016, 08:37pm

Joined: Jan 24 2010
Member No: #38
Location: Celbridge
Condensers are known to be weak particularly on C5 which apparently has the same unit as C6. My local friendly independent advises not to fit a Citroen replacement. He fits a stronger equivalent.

Best regards,

Phil C.
drummond   
Sat Jul 09 2016, 02:57pm
Joined: Sep 20 2010
Member No: #238
Location: Aldeburgh
Mine too, Cruserphil- I had my car under a Citroen warranty and they replaced with a factory one. It was about £1000. Forge Motors said that they could replace it with a stronger one for £300.
cruiserphil   
Sun Jul 10 2016, 06:08pm

Joined: Jan 24 2010
Member No: #38
Location: Celbridge
Drummond,

That sounds about right!

Best regards,

Phil C.
gmerry   
Sun Jul 10 2016, 07:17pm
Joined: Dec 11 2009
Member No: #21
Location: Scotland
Who is the manufacturer for the "stronger" condenser?

thanks
G
gmerry   
Mon Jul 11 2016, 10:32am
Joined: Dec 11 2009
Member No: #21
Location: Scotland
Update on aircon Condensers for 2.7HDi:

Firstly, it looks as though there was a complete design change at chassis number 11557. Earlier cars used a wider lower condenser, nominal core size of the heat exchange section of 669 wide x 303 high x 16mm thick. This applies up to June 2008 approximately. Later cars use a narrower/higher exchanger nominal size 558 wide x 361 high from chassis number 11557 onwards. Presumably the change in the condenser size coincided with a change for supplier of the entire HVAC system (cabin side) although as far as I can see, Sanden remained the sole compressor supplier and did not change the design.

Suppliers for the earlier condensers are Nissen #94830 (2.9kg) or Valeo #817740 or BOLK #BOL-C0217267.

Suppliers for the later condensers are Valeo #814173

On a tangent, the BOLK condenser is listed at 66 Euros on the Belgium website of a large motor factor or 188 pounds on the UK website of the same factor. Go figure the difference in exchange rate or who is getting ripped off!

Note, THE ABOVE APPLIES TO 2.7 HDI

Regards
G

 

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