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kfairgray   
Tue Apr 12 2016, 09:05am
Joined: Mar 14 2016
Member No: #2555
Location: South Pacific
Here is a picture of the Jap two screen format:

- Click Here -

c6kev   
Tue Apr 12 2016, 03:46pm
Joined: Dec 02 2013
Member No: #1508
Location: Wales
See - Click Here - for a previous discussion on the Japanese spec cars' screens. (Unfortunately, the video is no longer available). Arguably a better arrangement than the cars sold elsewhere.
FraserG   
Wed Apr 13 2016, 12:54am
Joined: Jan 05 2015
Member No: #2011
Location: Auckland
Oh, that is interesting Ken.

I have not seen that before. I will be interested to see how it works. For some reason the video link Kevin put up won't show for me.

I must say I like the air conditioning in Auckland!

Cheers Fraser
kfairgray   
Tue Apr 19 2016, 10:45am
Joined: Mar 14 2016
Member No: #2555
Location: South Pacific
Picking up my Citroen [a sad story]

Friday was the day that I had been waiting for for so long, the appointed day for me to pick up my new C6. I excitedly 'Ubered' out to South Auckland and drove back in the C6 through very heavy traffic to Mt Albert as dusk fell...

As expected the automatic headlamp did come on when it got dark enough - that was not a typo, just one headlamp came on. A minor fault I thought...

Next the handbrake froze, in the 'on' position. It happened at the traffic lights at a very busy intersection [BTW I am aware of the need to depress either the foot brake or accelerator to disengage the park brake] I turned off the ignition in the end to reset this. But it took me a while to think of that... I must admit that I did not really expect to be deploying the hazard lights and/or holding up so much angry traffic due to a malfunction so soon after taking possession

Next came the knocking noises - it sounded like someone, or more than one person, was trapped in, and desperately attempting to escape from the boot [trunk] Incidentally imprisoning people in my car boot and then driving all around town is not normal Friday night lark. Next came a loud ticking noise, perhaps something like the crocodile that followed Captain Hook around, except louder! Did I mention that reverse gear was not functioning, or that the brakes started to make a dreadful screaming noises as well.

Driving the vehicle back to the car yard the next morning, and within about 200 meters of the dealership the next drama unfolded - the right rear wheel locked-up 100%. Being in the middle of a very busy road I then needed to 'force-drive' it off the road to safety - this created an impressive very amount of black smoke - boy racer style - that is apparently what locked wheels do if you keep driving [but don't try it]

Abandoning the vehicle to walk the rest of the way to Pearce Brothers I first went to remove my possessions from the boot [a small bag, not bodies] that is when the entire back section of the boot fell off - the part with the lights and number plate was in a flash dangling precariously by a bunch of wires. Hmmmmmmmm overall not a great first day as a C6 owner I feel.

So for now I am back driving a borrowed 20 year old Toyota. Bishops Garage have very carefully prescribed a super long list of parts to be ordered from France [fortunately this will not be billed to me] Shipping will take aprox 2-3 weeks to New Zealand I think. Pearce Brothers will provide me with a loaner car to drive.

I must say that Pearce Brothers [the dealers] have been very good about the whole thing. I am very confident that they will get this completely machine ship-shape for me before I pick it up the next time.... [probably May] Also Bishop's will do a final QA on all the work before I take possession [for the second time]

Onward and upwards. Just more waiting...

Ped   
Tue Apr 19 2016, 02:28pm
Joined: Apr 06 2010
Member No: #82
Location: Maidenhead
Sounds like a lemon. Walk away (literally) and find another.
Trainman   
Tue Apr 19 2016, 02:42pm

Joined: Apr 12 2010
Member No: #86
Location: Penwortham
Blooming Heck........... or words to that effect....
Cisco   
Tue Apr 19 2016, 03:42pm
Joined: Sep 10 2013
Member No: #1429
Location: Glasgow
That's quite a "pick-up" story.

As you have bought the car from a motor dealer you will have some consumer protection rights and be able to get your money back. Even if you have agreed something regarding repair go back and get your money back. If necessary take legal advice to do this.

If you read this forum you will see that even the best C6's with full dealer service history can cost quite a bit in unexpected repairs. The car you have "purchased" is an import with unknown history and clearly was not fit to be sold.

Go back and get your money back.
Tjensen   
Tue Apr 19 2016, 09:00pm
Joined: Jul 17 2012
Member No: #954
Location: Bergen
Is it possible to see the other side of it: a car with a lot of repairs and new parts paid by the seller ?
gmerry   
Tue Apr 19 2016, 10:28pm
Joined: Dec 11 2009
Member No: #21
Location: Scotland
Keep "the faith" and it may well turn out that these are teething symptoms from a car that has not been used very much for some time. If the repairs are properly carried out (new parking brake actuator/cables/ECU/Calipers as required), car should be fine and capable of years of service. There are posts on this forum on how to carry out an improvement repair to the rear boot panel.

Regards
G
FraserG   
Tue Apr 19 2016, 11:21pm
Joined: Jan 05 2015
Member No: #2011
Location: Auckland
Good grief Ken!

I've just seen this mail. What a terrible experience.

Fingers crossed that these problems are the end of it. I've had the opposite experience but perhaps that is because mine was New Zealand new and constantly used? I suspect your problems have come about because of a long period of non use. Not the boot disassembly though!

How worrying. New cars need to give us confidence not scare the [%*^#@!] out of us!

A good experience wrecked. [%*^#@!]...

Cheers Fraser
Bishop   
Wed Apr 20 2016, 12:42pm
Joined: Apr 16 2012
Member No: #868
Location: Harpenden
Run away (if you can).
gmerry   
Wed Apr 20 2016, 03:15pm
Joined: Dec 11 2009
Member No: #21
Location: Scotland
Hi again, 10 year old vehicle (almost)!. Japanese mainly treat their vehicles as disposable so you may need to work at it to get it up to a good condition. At least its a petrol so much simpler and easier to repair than a diesel. I would definitely figure on doing some suspension work (say new spheres all round and renew front wishbones and FRIP joints) if you want to have some reliable enjoyable service. Also a new battery of the correct specification might be a wise investment to avoid electrical gremlins. Plus spend some time cleaning all the earths to get rid of corrosion.

Regarding teething problems, I purchased a 9 months old, dealer principal car and it took about 5 return visits and 6 months to get rid of the issues even on such a new C6.

Best wishes
G
kfairgray   
Sat Apr 23 2016, 09:39am
Joined: Mar 14 2016
Member No: #2555
Location: South Pacific
Hello All:

Bishop and Ped: I had exactly the same thoughts initially - time to totally cancel the entire purchase and buy a green Toyota...

Cisco: You are 100% correct - consumer rights here, are very similar to those in UK, and I had no obligation whatsoever to proceed, and the absolute ability to request an immediate refund in full This was something that I seriously considered.

However, it now transpires that one of the service providers completing the prepurchase mechanical work, that I negotiated into the deal, omitted to replace a bolt... yes just one bolt...

This caused a caliper to dislodge, which in turn caused damage to brushes, brake cables, other parts of the suspension, tyres and numerous other areas. Bishops [Citroen specialists in Auckland] inspected the vehicle following the incident and have now drawn up a very very long list of parts that now need to be replaced - almost $3,000 worth!!! Expensive little bolt I believe.

In fact all of the manifestations on black Friday related to this bolt, or absence of more correctly, directly or as a secondary consequence - with the exception of the failing headlamp and the panel issue with the boot [that made me feel like Frank Spencer]

Fortunately the provider has accepted full liability, and that super long list of replacement parts has now been ordered from France. They'll take 2-3 weeks I think to get to New Zealand... More waiting for me...

Tjensen: I certainly share your views. A ship load of brand new parts, correctly installed is not a bad thing at all I'd say...

gmerry: Some excellent advice on components that should be looked at / replaced on a vehicle of this age. It now appears that many of these components will actually be supplied courtesy of the vendor I will also consider over time the other improvements that you have prescribed as well - thank you for these ideas.

Fraser, Cruiser Phil [via PM] + gmerry and others: Thanks so much for your kind words of encouragement - not a great start to C6 ownership for me [did I ham it up too much?] however I do intend to keep this vehicle for a very very long time - only 10 years until it becomes a classic, and after all, they do not make them anymore !!!

This vehicle may potentially have been under-maintained in the land of the rising sun [as is often the case] however I did obtain a very thorough pre-purchase inspection report from Citroen specialists, and I was successful in negotiating nearly all of the recommended work into the arrangement. It now appears that there will be considerable extra mechanical work completed as well by the vendor. It is also important to remember that at NZD$20,000 this vehicle was acquired at a good price locally [especially given the many inclusions at the sellers cost]

I do need to stress within this public forum, that none of the failings were in any way related to work completed by Bishops. I also which to say that Pearce Brothers [the car dealers] have been great. They have ordered all of the new parts from France and will have all of the work completed [with a final QA by Bishops] at their cost. They have also now provided me with a loaner vehicle for as long as the process takes. It is good for them, they have two more C6's on the yard to sell right now after all, and there reputation is clearly important to them:

- Click Here -

- Click Here -

I do very much look forward to being behind the wheel of my C6 [newly restored] I also look forward to a completely different experience the second time that I pick up my acquisition.

I can perhaps let you all know how it goes

Kind Regards

Ken






NZC6   
Tue Apr 26 2016, 09:13am
Joined: Mar 16 2014
Member No: #1629
Location: Christchurch
Hi Kfairgray. Sorry to hear about the start of your C6 ownership experience. If you pan down the threads here you will find my less than ideal first experience with my C6 just over 2 years ago. I still own it though and enjoy it even if it has given me a bit of grief at times. Mine is an NZ new car with just over 100k on it now and is just about to get its EGR front valve replaced (I had the rear done last year). I am so grateful I got autosure insurance for 4 years when I bought it - it has repaid itself many times over.
With the lane departure warning system - this was deleted from C6s brought into NZ for some reason. Also my 2007 exclusive has the RT3 system which means you need a cd for the sat Nav - unfortunately they are not available for NZ.
Best wishes for when you get it back. When they are running well they are brilliant cars and you can almost forgive them for their various niggles.
kfairgray   
Tue Apr 26 2016, 10:22am
Joined: Mar 14 2016
Member No: #2555
Location: South Pacific
Hello NZC6

This is actually the first time that I have ever purchased a vehicle from anywhere other than the South Island of New Zealand.

I love classic cars [and fully expect my C6 to magically turn into one - rather soon] and the SI seems to be abundant with classical cars in great condition!!! It seems that the cold dry climate is very kind to cars - unlike Auckland's ultra-high humidity plus maritime [read salty] climate which seems to wreak vehicles very quickly

I purchased a VW 181 [ex Invercargill] this was a military vehicle - a convertible - loads of fun, especially in summer, but had to go when children arrived and safety became more of an issue...

We moved to Volvos [one safety extreme to another] and had several. My favorite was a big Silver 740 ex Nelson. I loved driving such a huge and heavy vehicle. Next was my Renault Vel Satis, for the best part of 10 years all up. And now I have a C6 - or rather I will have once all the parts arrive from France...

So yes, I am no stranger to unusual cars, and the quirks and costs of owning such rare beasts - that is just what I do, and i am not about to change that

I did purchase a mechanical warranty - they'd only do three years for me, and not the four I wanted, but I am sure that it will come in handy, to contain repair costs, only the excess for me to pay each time [$500 I think]

With regards to lane departure, perhaps Citroen decided that given our roads the system would zap you in behind every 30 seconds so decided to exclude it? - a reasonable theory perhaps?

Niggles is fine - a small price to pay I feel for massive character no?

Kind Regards

Ken
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