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JimC |
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Joined: Sep 07 2010
Member No: #229
Location: Scotland |
Thanks Gerry, I did look at that thread but came to the conclusion that as the passenger side is working OK, it's probably not a water issue. However, I have left a message on Paul Mooney's voicemail so will see if he's still doing his travelling/magic. Hi Jarek, Thanks for the links. The pictures look good but as I've never done any purchases through Allegro in Poland, should I presume the items would be in good condition? |
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Jarecki |
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Joined: Feb 19 2015
Member No: #2069
Location: Poznan |
Hi JimC, The parts on Allegro are generally OK, just disassembled wreck. There is normal seller warranty and invoice - you can give it back in 2 weeks, sometimes even in 2 moths. I repeat, I dont suggest to buy, just trying to help by picture. As a C6owners member, to help club friends - I can ride my C6 and visit closer part seller and take more pictures, or discuss the seller about price, history and shipment. I'm not sure yet if the rh / lh driving part is the same in all details. Send me the VIN I'll compare and check it on - Click Here - |
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gmerry |
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Joined: Dec 11 2009
Member No: #21
Location: Scotland |
Hi Jim, I suspect this is all you actually need: (from ebay search for Peugeot 407 heater flap repair kit) - Click Here - In terms of minimising cost, the advantages of replacing the flaps rather than the entire heater are a massive reduction in cost IF IF IF you can find someone to cut and weld the heater casing... which you are doing. Best regards Gerry |
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JimC |
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Joined: Sep 07 2010
Member No: #229
Location: Scotland |
Thanks Jareck, I'll come back to you if needed... Thanks Gerry, That sounds like the best way forward and would have the advantage of me knowing what I've got (i.e. a 2nd-hand replacement maybe a few days away from going the same way as mine did - but you pays our money & takes your chance!) I've got gasless MIG welder but I doubt if it does plastic! |
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gmerry |
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Joined: Dec 11 2009
Member No: #21
Location: Scotland |
Hi Jim, did you manage to get hold of Paul Mooney from Peugeot Central forum - Click Here - Otherwise OMM sounds like an option. - Click Here - Plastic welding needs a kit like this? |
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gmerry |
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Joined: Dec 11 2009
Member No: #21
Location: Scotland |
Jim, if you are willing to give it a go, the weebly website has pretty good instructions for a Pug 407 dual control. C6 will be very similar if not identical. Looks not too bad. In this instance, the heater box surgery was made good with adhesive, no need for plastic welding. - Click Here - peugeot-407-heater-fix dot weebly dot com |
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JimC |
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Joined: Sep 07 2010
Member No: #229
Location: Scotland |
Wow Thanks Gerry. Looks pretty simple ... although I think I may consult with 'Zen' for half an hour before attempting it! Will let you know how I get on. |
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JimC |
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Joined: Sep 07 2010
Member No: #229
Location: Scotland |
Well, I took the plunge today and dismantled as much as I could below the steering wheel to get to the heater box (must have spent about three times longer than someone who knows what they're doing!). I then took off the bottom motor and hey presto... the hole, where the end of the flap fixing should be, was empty. At least that meant I was in the correct area! Looking closer, I could see the end of the broken shaft. Here's a picture of the hole with the broken shaft visible... Next job was to cut into the heater and I elected to leave part of the shaft hole in place thinking it would leave a stronger flap housing when re-assembling... Wrong move! The back of the hole has a profile to stop the shaft turning too far and cutting through it created a nightmare when gluing it back together (I ended-up having to run a 16mm drill through the hole before the flap would go through). Here's a picture of the new 'hole' with the two parts of the flap visible... I haven't a picture, but I ended-up cutting out the rest of the shaft hole and gluing it to the bigger part that I'd cut out. I'd also bought new flaps from one of Gerry's links (above) and the grey one slid in fairly easily (you also get a blue one for the passenger side). Glued the cut-out back in (not pretty but Hey Ho), slid on the motor, tested it, smiled (a lot) and went for a cup if tea!... Here's some tips if you're ever in the same situation: Cut-out a 'wedge' a little bigger than the size of the flap... but include the whole shaft-hole! Don't worry too much about the strength of the re-glued cut-out... as long as you don't cut out the motor housings! (they take the full weight of the motor and the flap). Get yourself one of the new fangled cordless cutter things to go through the plastic (worked a dream). Don't buy new flaps! ... I've bolted & glued the broken one so now have a full set of spare flaps (anyone interested?)... although, if I hadn't had one in my hand, I wouldn't have had a clue how big a hole to cut. Now all I have to do is put back the Air Bag and fancy bits then take it for a nice, warm, drive. |
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Cisco |
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Joined: Sep 10 2013
Member No: #1429
Location: Glasgow |
Well done Jim, Although I'm hoping I wont need this info ATB Frank |
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cruiserphil |
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Member No: #38
Location: Celbridge |
Many thanks for that post! Best regards, Phil C. |
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gmerry |
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Joined: Dec 11 2009
Member No: #21
Location: Scotland |
Jim, great write up. Fantastic job. Regards G Curious why you decided to repair the old flap when you had a spare in hand |
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JimC |
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Joined: Sep 07 2010
Member No: #229
Location: Scotland |
Thanks F, P & G. Gerry: so I could sell it to you at 80% of cost price when you need it |
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Cisco |
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Joined: Sep 10 2013
Member No: #1429
Location: Glasgow |
I had forgotten that I commented on this thread is that the definition of irony? I just drove 1000 miles in 2 days with the car performing great except that the passenger started complaining of being cold! Heater flap shaft has broken. Car is at 120k miles. Good news is that it's the passenger side. I wont be doing this repair until the weather heats up but thanks again for the write up Jim C. |
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Cisco |
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Joined: Sep 10 2013
Member No: #1429
Location: Glasgow |
BTW Jim, if you are still with us, I'll buy the fresh passenger side flap off of you if you still have it. Just pm me All the best and Seasons Greetings to long suffering C6 members Frank |
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JimC |
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Joined: Sep 07 2010
Member No: #229
Location: Scotland |
Hi Cisco, My passenger side has just gone the same way so I'll be getting my cutter out again. Providing I can fix my existing flap, I should have a spare (if you can just remind me where the 'safe place' is that I put it ) PPS: I'm also putting my car on the market (once I fix the heater)... 2008 Black C6 Lignage, 99400 miles with 4 spare alloy wheels (one in need of repair) and two winter tyres. MOTd to 15th August with new 'bits' just about everywhere except the radio display. |
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