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markiemark   
Sat Jul 12 2014, 07:54pm
Joined: Jan 12 2013
Member No: #1150
Location: London
 The saga is still ongoing. 3D printing seems the way to go. The dealer could not locate the part in the UK , it is no longer supplied, and found one in Spain, but it has taken two weeks for the money to get to the seller and the part to be shipped. Once I get the old one back I will be looking to recondition it to resell, so the next unfortunately owner does not have to wait and spend a small fortune on these parts. If I had know it was going to be this long at the start I would have gone to an aircon specialist to make something.
JimC   
Tue Mar 03 2015, 08:48pm
Joined: Sep 07 2010
Member No: #229
Location: Scotland
 Hi. As my driver's side heater flap has also just fallen apart and disappeared inside the heater gallery and I can't seem to find one anywhere, is there any further information on an alternative or a 3D printing option?
I'm also told it's about a ten hour job to get to the heater, fix it then replace everything!
JimC   
Sun Mar 22 2015, 09:43pm
Joined: Sep 07 2010
Member No: #229
Location: Scotland
 As said above, the report is that one heater flap has broken & fallen into the heater box.
Can someone explain what that means (I've never even see a heater box) and what do I need to get / where could I find what I need.

Thanks in anticipation,
Jim
Jarecki   
Mon Mar 23 2015, 06:45am
Joined: Feb 19 2015
Member No: #2069
Location: Poznan
 I did small reconaisance - look at the pictures, it can be helpful.
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It is not my idea to ask you to buy sthg, pictures ONLY.
gmerry   
Mon Mar 23 2015, 08:15am
Joined: Dec 11 2009
Member No: #21
Location: Scotland
 Jim check out the archives but I posted some months ago about heater repairs (in that case it turned out to be a waterside problem) with links to sellers of the Citroen C5 and Peugeot 407 heater flap repair kit. The main issue is finding someone with the expertise to cut a hole in the heater casing to effect the repair and then plastic weld good afterwoods. If you can't find the thread, let us know.

thanks
G
JimC   
Mon Mar 23 2015, 08:40pm
Joined: Sep 07 2010
Member No: #229
Location: Scotland
 Thanks Gerry,
I did look at that thread but came to the conclusion that as the passenger side is working OK, it's probably not a water issue. However, I have left a message on Paul Mooney's voicemail so will see if he's still doing his travelling/magic.

Hi Jarek,
Thanks for the links. The pictures look good but as I've never done any purchases through Allegro in Poland, should I presume the items would be in good condition?
Jarecki   
Tue Mar 24 2015, 06:29am
Joined: Feb 19 2015
Member No: #2069
Location: Poznan
 Hi JimC,
The parts on Allegro are generally OK, just disassembled wreck. There is normal seller warranty and invoice - you can give it back in 2 weeks, sometimes even in 2 moths. I repeat, I dont suggest to buy, just trying to help by picture.
As a C6owners member, to help club friends - I can ride my C6 and visit closer part seller and take more pictures, or discuss the seller about price, history and shipment.
I'm not sure yet if the rh / lh driving part is the same in all details.
Send me the VIN I'll compare and check it on - Click Here -
gmerry   
Tue Mar 24 2015, 02:23pm
Joined: Dec 11 2009
Member No: #21
Location: Scotland
 Hi Jim, I suspect this is all you actually need:

(from ebay search for Peugeot 407 heater flap repair kit)

- Click Here -

In terms of minimising cost, the advantages of replacing the flaps rather than the entire heater are a massive reduction in cost IF IF IF you can find someone to cut and weld the heater casing... which you are doing.

Best regards

Gerry
JimC   
Tue Mar 24 2015, 04:37pm
Joined: Sep 07 2010
Member No: #229
Location: Scotland
 Thanks Jareck,
I'll come back to you if needed...

Thanks Gerry,
That sounds like the best way forward and would have the advantage of me knowing what I've got (i.e. a 2nd-hand replacement maybe a few days away from going the same way as mine did - but you pays our money & takes your chance!)
I've got gasless MIG welder but I doubt if it does plastic!
gmerry   
Tue Mar 24 2015, 06:45pm
Joined: Dec 11 2009
Member No: #21
Location: Scotland
 Hi Jim, did you manage to get hold of Paul Mooney from Peugeot Central forum
- Click Here -

Otherwise OMM sounds like an option.

- Click Here -

Plastic welding needs a kit like this?
gmerry   
Wed Mar 25 2015, 01:35pm
Joined: Dec 11 2009
Member No: #21
Location: Scotland
 Jim, if you are willing to give it a go, the weebly website has pretty good instructions for a Pug 407 dual control. C6 will be very similar if not identical. Looks not too bad. In this instance, the heater box surgery was made good with adhesive, no need for plastic welding.



- Click Here -

peugeot-407-heater-fix dot weebly dot com
JimC   
Thu Mar 26 2015, 08:15am
Joined: Sep 07 2010
Member No: #229
Location: Scotland
 Wow Thanks Gerry.
Looks pretty simple ... although I think I may consult with 'Zen' for half an hour before attempting it! Will let you know how I get on.
JimC   
Sat Apr 04 2015, 08:48pm
Joined: Sep 07 2010
Member No: #229
Location: Scotland
 Well, I took the plunge today and dismantled as much as I could below the steering wheel to get to the heater box (must have spent about three times longer than someone who knows what they're doing!).
I then took off the bottom motor and hey presto... the hole, where the end of the flap fixing should be, was empty. At least that meant I was in the correct area!
Looking closer, I could see the end of the broken shaft.

Here's a picture of the hole with the broken shaft visible...




Next job was to cut into the heater and I elected to leave part of the shaft hole in place thinking it would leave a stronger flap housing when re-assembling... Wrong move! The back of the hole has a profile to stop the shaft turning too far and cutting through it created a nightmare when gluing it back together (I ended-up having to run a 16mm drill through the hole before the flap would go through).

Here's a picture of the new 'hole' with the two parts of the flap visible...





I haven't a picture, but I ended-up cutting out the rest of the shaft hole and gluing it to the bigger part that I'd cut out.

I'd also bought new flaps from one of Gerry's links (above) and the grey one slid in fairly easily (you also get a blue one for the passenger side).

Glued the cut-out back in (not pretty but Hey Ho), slid on the motor, tested it, smiled (a lot) and went for a cup if tea!...




Here's some tips if you're ever in the same situation:
Cut-out a 'wedge' a little bigger than the size of the flap... but include the whole shaft-hole!
Don't worry too much about the strength of the re-glued cut-out... as long as you don't cut out the motor housings! (they take the full weight of the motor and the flap).
Get yourself one of the new fangled cordless cutter things to go through the plastic (worked a dream).
Don't buy new flaps! ... I've bolted & glued the broken one so now have a full set of spare flaps (anyone interested?)... although, if I hadn't had one in my hand, I wouldn't have had a clue how big a hole to cut.

Now all I have to do is put back the Air Bag and fancy bits then take it for a nice, warm, drive.
Cisco   
Sat Apr 04 2015, 10:22pm
Joined: Sep 10 2013
Member No: #1429
Location: Glasgow
 Well done Jim,

Although I'm hoping I wont need this info

ATB

Frank
cruiserphil   
Sun Apr 05 2015, 09:38am

Joined: Jan 24 2010
Member No: #38
Location: Celbridge
 Many thanks for that post!

Best regards,

Phil C.
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