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mark28 |
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Joined: Apr 28 2010
Member No: #102
Location: Hampshire |
Problem is that most people do not care what suspension their cars have. If they did Citroen would be ahead of BMW et al | ||
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smihaialex |
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Joined: Sep 18 2012
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Location: Bucharest |
That's not a problem Mark, that's absolutely normal... People don't care about specs, and they shouldn't! People care about benefits, and they should! There are the few and far apart enthusiast-types who do care about specs more than they do about benefits, but... Let's face it, under Peugeot management, Citroën failed to advance the Hydractive suspension as much as they should have and it ultimately failed to deliver on its promise to have a magic carpet like ride, seamlessly absorbing the bumps and cracks in the road surface, while still providing proper handling. There are plenty of cars out there with a more traditional approach to suspension design which provide the same ride quality and handling or better... Now, if PSA tried their best and failed, it means that we have reached the peak of this technology, and if this is as good as it gets, then it's only normal for PSA to abandon it, and channel their efforts towards something new. If they didn't try anything but to milk as much as they could from a design originating to some 60 years ago, only tweaking it slightly, but without any real R&D, then, again, it's only fair to abandon it and say "hey, we've milked this cow for as much as we could already", and move on... Also, let's face it, the future is not hydraulic, it's electronic... Do you remember the late great Mr. Bose doing an internet video some years back where he was describing how the technology behind Bose's noise canceling headphones could be used in electronic car suspension systems?!? If not, here is a French installment from theTurbo TV show airing on M6: - Click Here - Makes Hydractive look like a [%*^#@!] joke... Cheers, Sammy |
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C6Dave |
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Member No: #1
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Too much money is going on chasing alternative means of powering cars I'm afraid, developing technology that people don't want (short range, all electric cars)'stop start etc. leaving nothing for R+D on suspension systems etc. | ||
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ChrisHunter |
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Joined: Jul 20 2010
Member No: #188
Location: Lancashire |
IIRC, Lotus's foray was with support from Citroën ... | ||
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ChrisHunter |
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Joined: Jul 20 2010
Member No: #188
Location: Lancashire |
IIRC, Peugeot saved Citroën from the brink ... and one of the first benefits to Peugeot was the rear suspension for the 305 estates ... |
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ChrisHunter |
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Joined: Jul 20 2010
Member No: #188
Location: Lancashire |
signed ... surely not a waste of time - in our experience, people do take account of such things, especially when given constructive inputs ... |
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jacktherev |
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Joined: Sep 06 2013
Member No: #1423
Location: Co Down, Northern Ireland |
Exactly my take on it Chris and I think we may be surprised to hear that they've changed their mind eventually. Could be a publicity ploy you know what there big guys are like. | ||
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ChrisHunter |
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Joined: Jul 20 2010
Member No: #188
Location: Lancashire |
>that's not a problem ... Turbo TV show airing on M6 ... Sammy good post - video looked convincing, too ! |
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Chris Burmajster |
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Joined: Apr 03 2010
Member No: #81
Location: South East |
The one thing missing from this thread was an official announcement from Citroen; I searched high and low and found nothing. Therefore I e-mailed Citroen directly and received the following reply: I have checked with our Head Office Product Team, and have not had this information confirmed. So currently, as far as I have been made aware by our Head Office team – Citroën are still manufacturing hydraulic vehicles. So Citroen will be making hydraulic cars at least for the foreseeable future. |
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